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	<title>Comments on: Jim Louderback on NewsGator Online Services</title>
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		<title>By: Ian Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.rassoc.com/gregr/weblog/2004/02/06/jim-louderback-on-newsgator-online-services/#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep plugging away Greg. The reason I chose newsgator is you :-)You seem to understand and are very proactive. I like supporting businesses that are &quot;out there&quot; and not just going with the flow.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep plugging away Greg. The reason I chose newsgator is you :-)You seem to understand and are very proactive. I like supporting businesses that are &#8220;out there&#8221; and not just going with the flow.</p>
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		<title>By: Keep RSS free for all?</title>
		<link>http://www.rassoc.com/gregr/weblog/2004/02/06/jim-louderback-on-newsgator-online-services/#comment-1130</link>
		<dc:creator>Keep RSS free for all?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Jim Louderback&#039;s article at eWeek entitled, &quot;Keep RSS Free for All,&quot; and I was sort of taken aback. Obviously, Jim got an earful from Greg, some of which we can read at Greg&#039;s blog in his rebuttal, to...[&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.jamiejamison.com/tech/2004/02/keep_rss_free_f.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more&lt;/a&gt;]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Jim Louderback&#8217;s article at eWeek entitled, &#8220;Keep RSS Free for All,&#8221; and I was sort of taken aback. Obviously, Jim got an earful from Greg, some of which we can read at Greg&#8217;s blog in his rebuttal, to&#8230;[<a href='http://www.jamiejamison.com/tech/2004/02/keep_rss_free_f.html' rel="nofollow">more</a>]</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Dambrot</title>
		<link>http://www.rassoc.com/gregr/weblog/2004/02/06/jim-louderback-on-newsgator-online-services/#comment-1129</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Dambrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve run into this before with Louderback - it seems that he indeed doesn&#039;t check out the product being reviewed, but merely takes someone else&#039;s word for it - even if that someone else is the manufacturer. This is irresponsible journalism, and is an abuse of the power of name (his) recognition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my case, it was a review of a &quot;special&quot; unrestricted version of a WiFi client My email to Jim: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#039;Your review of Cirond WiNc is misleading. You claim it to be a fully-enabled version, but some options - such as WEP file provisioning - simply bring up a small message that the feature is only available in the full version.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#039;This could be seen as bait-and-switch, which would be especially disturbing if promoted by a trusted journalist.&#039;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim&#039;s (pathetic, IMHO) response:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#039;Hmmm.  They told me it would be the full client – stand alone.  I believe they sell another version that works with their management software that includes those features.&#039;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even worse, he made no changes or annotations to his review.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK, enough said.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve run into this before with Louderback &#8211; it seems that he indeed doesn&#8217;t check out the product being reviewed, but merely takes someone else&#8217;s word for it &#8211; even if that someone else is the manufacturer. This is irresponsible journalism, and is an abuse of the power of name (his) recognition.</p>
<p>In my case, it was a review of a &#8220;special&#8221; unrestricted version of a WiFi client My email to Jim: </p>
<p>&#8216;Your review of Cirond WiNc is misleading. You claim it to be a fully-enabled version, but some options &#8211; such as WEP file provisioning &#8211; simply bring up a small message that the feature is only available in the full version.</p>
<p>&#8216;This could be seen as bait-and-switch, which would be especially disturbing if promoted by a trusted journalist.&#8217;</p>
<p>Jim&#8217;s (pathetic, IMHO) response:</p>
<p>&#8216;Hmmm.  They told me it would be the full client – stand alone.  I believe they sell another version that works with their management software that includes those features.&#8217;</p>
<p>Even worse, he made no changes or annotations to his review.</p>
<p>OK, enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Keep RSS Free Debate</title>
		<link>http://www.rassoc.com/gregr/weblog/2004/02/06/jim-louderback-on-newsgator-online-services/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>Keep RSS Free Debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2004 17:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Louderback writes that RSS should be free using NewsGator as the example. NewsGator&#039;s Greg Reinacker responds. What are your thoughts?...[&lt;a href=&#039;http://rss.lockergnome.com/archives/opinion/008888.phtml&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more&lt;/a&gt;]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Louderback writes that RSS should be free using NewsGator as the example. NewsGator&#8217;s Greg Reinacker responds. What are your thoughts?&#8230;[<a href='http://rss.lockergnome.com/archives/opinion/008888.phtml' rel="nofollow">more</a>]</p>
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		<title>By: mpolino.com Archives</title>
		<link>http://www.rassoc.com/gregr/weblog/2004/02/06/jim-louderback-on-newsgator-online-services/#comment-1127</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ivan Vega</title>
		<link>http://www.rassoc.com/gregr/weblog/2004/02/06/jim-louderback-on-newsgator-online-services/#comment-1126</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Vega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2004 17:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed. It looks like Mr. Louderback didn&#039;t even try the NGOS as it appears he doesn&#039;t know what he&#039;s talking about.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I for one am already subscribed and I just love the service!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keep up the good work Greg!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed. It looks like Mr. Louderback didn&#8217;t even try the NGOS as it appears he doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
<p>I for one am already subscribed and I just love the service!</p>
<p>Keep up the good work Greg!</p>
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		<title>By: Louderback misses the point completely</title>
		<link>http://www.rassoc.com/gregr/weblog/2004/02/06/jim-louderback-on-newsgator-online-services/#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>Louderback misses the point completely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2004 17:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eWeek&#039;s Jim Louderback gets it all wrong today, accusing NewsGator of creating an &quot;evil walled garden&quot; in the otherwise free and pristine world of RSS. His complaint? That &lt;a href=&quot;http://services.newsgator.com&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NGOS&lt;/a&gt; (the online services component of NewsGator 2.0) uses a proprietary API. His solution? Yahoo&#039;s new (still beta) &lt;a href=&quot;http://e.my.yahoo.com/config/promo_content?.module=ycontent&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RSS feed component&lt;/a&gt; for the My Yahoo! page.

I&#039;ve written about both NewsGator 2.0 and the Yahoo! RSS module in this space. I think both are excellent tools worthy of consideration....[&lt;a href=&#039;http://blogs.officezealot.com/marc/archives/000305.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more&lt;/a&gt;]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eWeek&#8217;s Jim Louderback gets it all wrong today, accusing NewsGator of creating an &#8220;evil walled garden&#8221; in the otherwise free and pristine world of RSS. His complaint? That <a href="http://services.newsgator.com" target="blank" rel="nofollow">NGOS</a> (the online services component of NewsGator 2.0) uses a proprietary API. His solution? Yahoo&#8217;s new (still beta) <a href="http://e.my.yahoo.com/config/promo_content?.module=ycontent" target="blank" rel="nofollow">RSS feed component</a> for the My Yahoo! page.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written about both NewsGator 2.0 and the Yahoo! RSS module in this space. I think both are excellent tools worthy of consideration&#8230;.[<a href='http://blogs.officezealot.com/marc/archives/000305.html' rel="nofollow">more</a>]</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Orchant</title>
		<link>http://www.rassoc.com/gregr/weblog/2004/02/06/jim-louderback-on-newsgator-online-services/#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Orchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2004 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg - excellent response. All of your points are well-taken and address Louderback&#039;s contentions clearly and concisely. I&#039;ve already posted my thoughts at my blog. I&#039;m a bit less gentle than you but that&#039;s my perogative as a non-aligned observer ;-&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://blogs.officezealot.com/marc/archives/000305.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg &#8211; excellent response. All of your points are well-taken and address Louderback&#8217;s contentions clearly and concisely. I&#8217;ve already posted my thoughts at my blog. I&#8217;m a bit less gentle than you but that&#8217;s my perogative as a non-aligned observer ;-></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.officezealot.com/marc/archives/000305.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.officezealot.com/marc/archives/000305.html</a></p>
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